canyonwalker: Mr. Moneybags enjoys his wealth (money)
Last week I wrote Coming Out Ahead with a 401(k) providing a simple example of how investing through a tax deferred account such as a 401(k) nets you more money than investing through a taxable account. Two things about that....

  • One, it was frankly too simple as it showed an investment that grew only through capital appreciation. Fewer than 20% of individual stocks in the S&P 500 fit that profile and pretty much no mutual funds do. And mutual funds are generally all that's available in employer sponsored 401(k) plans.

  • Two, the example showed the 401(k) coming out only 26% ahead after 20 years. 26% is nothing to sneeze at— we're talking 26% mo' money here— but shouldn't much-ballyhooed 401(k)s do even better than that?

It turns out that addressing one concern addresses both.

For Scenario 2, here, I'm going to change one of the assumptions from Scenario 1:

  • Instead of investing in stock XYZ, which grows 7% annually and pays no dividend, you invest in mutual fund PQRST, which grows 4% annually in addition to paying a 3% distribution annually.

All other assumptions remain the same.

Note that PQRST and XYZ have the same 7% compound annual growth rate but the way they deliver that growth is different. That difference has tax implications.

The math gets complex as now there's tax due every year in the taxable account (the distributions are taxed in the year they're paid) so I'll illustrate how Scenario 2A-B works with a spreadsheet:

Table 2a-b: Growth of $10k in taxable vs. tax-sheltered accounts (Dec 2022)

Click/tap the image to enlarge.

Look at the bottom line in the chart. Investing in PQRST through the 401(k) pays almost 42% better than investing in a taxable account. That's a way better advantage than the 26% we saw in Scenario 1.


canyonwalker: Mr. Moneybags enjoys his wealth (money)
As I wrote about the contribution limits for 401(k)s rising in 2023 a few weeks ago I was reminded that a lot of people don't understand the benefit of 401(k)s. I mean, I think most American adults understand it at a high level: "Investing money in a 401(k) saves on taxes, so you have more money at the end." But understanding the details of how that works— and how much it benefits them— is squishy. I get it; the math1 can seem intimidating. Even for many people well educated in math or engineering it's too much to figure out. That leads to a lot of people not participating in 401(k) programs when they should. For example, many of my colleagues. 😳

I'll walk you through the math with a simple illustration. This will show you how much you can gain by investing through a 401(k) instead of an ordinary account. I call it the Tax-Deferred Advantage.

Here are five basic assumptions for my example:

  1. Let's suppose you invest your money in company XYZ, which enjoys stock price appreciation averaging 7% a year over the course of many years. To keep this example simple let's assume XYZ does not pay a dividend or distribution. This is a little unusual as most companies, over 80% of the names in the S&P 500 index, pay dividends; and virtually all mutual funds pay distributions. This assumption keeps the tax calculations simple.

  2. Let's suppose your overall marginal tax bracket is 28%. This includes both federal and state/local taxes, so think of it as 22% federal plus 6% state/local, or 24% federal plus 4% state/local, etc.

  3. You start with $10,000, pre-tax, to invest.

  4. You "buy and hold" XYZ — no trading until you're ready to withdraw. (This also keeps the example simpler.)

  5. We'll look at the totals after 20 years.


Case A: You invest via traditional investment account. You start by paying taxes on that $10k. Your investment in XYZ is thus $7,200 ($10k less 28% combined tax). Twenty years later your account value is $27,862. (This is $7.2k x 1.07^20.) When you withdraw the money you pay tax... but only on the gain of $20,662. Your net after taxes is $22,076.

Case B: You invest via a 401(k). You pay no taxes on the $10k up front because it's tax-deferred. All $10 goes into buying shares of XYZ company. Twenty years later it's worth $38,697. When you withdraw the money you pay taxes on the whole amount. After taxes you net $27,862.

So, how did we do? The 401(k) gave us 26% more money ($27,862 vs. $22,076) after 20 years. That's the Tax-Deferred Advantage!

And BTW, the advantage gets even bigger when you change some of the model's assumptions. For example, if your investment pays dividends or distributions, the advantage is even bigger. If your tax bracket is lower in retirement than your working years, the advantage is bigger, too. I'll show examples of these in a later blog as the math gets more complicated.


1: Insert curmudgeonly math joke: "That's not even math, it's arithmetic. If it were math it'd have letters!"

canyonwalker: Mr. Moneybags enjoys his wealth (money)
Treasury Bills. Wow, talk about boring topics. This one's like pressing the snooze button on your alarm, right? I used to think so, too, but recently I discovered they're useful right now. As I've noted in recent blogs about buying CDs and Series I savings bonds it's important in this era of high inflation and rising interest rates to find a better place to park cash than in a traditional savings account.

Here are Five Things about Treasury Bills:

1) Treasury Bills (T-Bills) are short duration issues, with maturities ranging from just 4 weeks to 1 year. There are also Treasury Notes and Treasury Bonds, with durations ranging from 2 years to 30 years. Recently I bought a 13-week bill and a 26-week bill.

2) You can buy treasuries at straight from the source (the federal government) at TreasuryDirect.gov. Yes, that's the same place as savings bonds. Yes, the website's still antiquated. Yes, it tends to crash every 6 months when people mob it to buy I-Bonds the last day or two before a rate change. The site has always worked for me, though.

3) T-Bills are sold at a small discount, say $97.80 versus a face price of $100. The government pays you the face price at maturity. The spread between what you paid and what you get is your return on investment. It's taxed as interest. If you pay $97.80 and get $100 six months later you've earned an annual rate of 4.5%. ( (100-97.80) / 97.80 * 2 = 4.5%.) A table of recent Treasury auction prices & rates is at https://www.treasurydirect.gov/auctions/announcements-data-results/.

4) T-Bills play the same role in my savings as CDs. I hold some of my short-term savings in these bills with maturities staggered ("laddered") at monthly intervals over a 6 month period. As I noted before in my blog about CDs, this is not investing, per se; it is cash management. I am finding places to get better, and safe, returns on the the emergency 6-month savings my partner and I set aside.

5) T-Bills actually pay slightly better than CDs, due to tax treatment. That's why I got interested in T-Bills recently. After I bought a few CDs I continued looking at alternatives. I noticed that T-Bills pay about the same nominal rate, roughly 4.5% annualized on a 6-month issue, but are not subject to state tax. I live in California, a high tax state, so getting that tax exemption makes a difference for me. At my marginal tax rate of 9.3%, a 4.5% return on T-Bills is like getting almost 5% on a CD. Given a choice between two safe investments, one that pays 4.5% and one that pays 5%, wouldn't you take the bigger one.


canyonwalker: Cthulhu voted - touch screen! (i voted)
Earlier today I began sharing my opinions about the statewide propositions on the ballot in California. See Ballot Propositions - Nov 2022 - part 1. Here in part 2 I address the latter four props on this November's ballot.

Prop 28: Lock in Funding for K-12 Arts and Music: Gentle No.

A few days ago I wrote blog entry The Problems with Propositions. Prop 28 is exactly the sort of measure I had in mind when I explained the trouble with props that lock in spending requirements. The bill would ensure a certain baseline amount of funding for K-12 arts and music education. To be sure, supporting such education programs is a worthy goal. And because of that it may well pass. I mean, who could be against teaching art and music to kids? But here's the thing: a vote against this initiative is not a vote against art. It's a vote against tying the hands of state legislators in the budgeting process.

This year California's budget spends nearly $100,000,000 on K-12 education, an average of $17,000 per student. For context: yes, that's a lot. And it's a lot partly because the state has enjoyed strong tax revenues for several years. But strong revenues are not a given. During an economic slowdown— of the sort that most economists, business leaders, and even ordinary citizens are predicting will happen next year if not sooner— California's tax revenues fall. Legislators then face tough choices in where to allocate funds. Each voter-passed initiative that locks in funding for one item or another makes the decisions about where to spend the remaining money more dire. Lock-ins for art and music may mean that school programs for language suffer... or perhaps that programs for supporting the elderly or combating climate change get short shrift.

Again, I recognize that supporting art and music education is a sympathetic choice. The only problem I have with this bill is that it's a funding lock-in. That's why I'm calling my position a Gentle No on 28.

Prop 29: Dialysis Clinic Regulation: No.

Patients who need kidney dialysis face dire straits. Shouldn't the industry that keeps them alive be better regulated? Don't be fooled; that's not what this is about.

This initiative matches at least 2 of the 5 proposition problems I described the other day. First, regulation in an industry that is a matter of life-or-death for certain individuals is a deeply detailed bit of policy that  shouldn't be left to ordinary citizens to enact on strict up-or-down votes.

Second— and more importantly— this is a special-interest, self-dealing initiative in disguise. Follow the money to see who is bankrolling this and understand why. Funding comes almost entirely from the Service Employees International Union-United Healthcare Workers West union, which has been fighting with the two major providers of kidney dialysis over workers' contracts for years. This is now the second time in recent years the SEIU has gone to the ballot box in an attempt to gain extra leverage in negotiations. I support unions fighting for fair pay, benefits, and working conditions. I do not support them misleading voters at the ballot box to win what they cannot win in equal party negotiations. Vote No on 29.

Prop 30: Tax the Rich to Fight Wildfires and Climate Change: No.

Ah, Prop 30, another measure with a worthy-seeming set of goals. Wildfires are already a very destructive phenomenon in California, costing billions annually, destroying homes and habitat, and often causing deaths. Who could be opposed to reducing the risk of wildfires? Especially since as bad as they are now they're expected to get worse as a result of climate change.... Which this measure nominally also fights. Who but climate deniers doesn't want to fight climate change? And who better to soak with the bill for all of this than California's highest income citizens, those making over $2 million per year?

Alas, Prop 30 is another case of a moneyed special interest looking to do itself a favor at taxpayer expense while using a noble goal as a disguise. Follow the money and you'll see: a) the measure's main sponsor is ride-share company Lyft, and b) the measure's main expenditure is subsidizing purchase of electric cars and the construction and operation of recharging stations. How does (b) relate to (a)? California recently passed a law requiring all new cars sold be electric by 2035. Lyft depends on a huge fleet of vehicles... which it wants taxpayers to subsidize its contractor-employees buying & refueling.

Look, I'm all in favor of vehicle electrification. And I don't like wildfires or climate change. But this tax-the-rich-to-subsidize-a-huge-company measure is the wrong way to further either of those goals. It's a flawed and self-dealing initiative. Vote No on 30.

Prop 31: Uphold Law Banning Flavored Tobacco: Yes.

Prop 31 is a referendum... Instead of being an initiative proposing to create a new law, it is an initiative allowing citizens to veto an existing law. Many voters feel confused and irritated by so many props each year that they take a stance of "I'm just going to vote No on everything!" This is one of the cases where that mindset is misplaced. With a referendum a Yes vote upholds an existing law and a No vote removes it.

What's the law at stake here? 2020 the California legislature approved, and the governor signed into law, a bill banning the sale of certain flavored tobacco products. Cigarette smoking is a major public health hazard generally speaking, and flavored tobacco products have repeatedly been shown to appeal to underage smokers, hooking kids on a destructive, lifetime habit. It's important to attempt funded by the tobacco industry (again, follow the money) to veto our laws— and to do that voters must vote YES on 31.

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I finished up my household's taxes this weekend. The last leg of my work was spending about 4 hours figuring out why TurboTax had my taxes $1,300 higher than my estimates and, if possible, lowering our bill.

The short version of the story is that TurboTax was right (this time) and we owe $1,300 more than I thought.

The long form is two things. First, the "abusive relationship" I've groused about having with TurboTax. The problem is that TT has been wrong a few times in the past, wrong to the tune of thousands of dollars. It's only through having spent significant time over the years educating myself on taxes and keeping an estimation spreadsheet that I caught these errors. And every single time TT has made it hard to check its math by.... well... hiding its math. Even though TurboTax's bottom line answers were correct this time, because of its occasional major mistakes in the past and persistent lack of transparency it remains an untrustworthy and thus abusive partner.

The second thing about that $1,300 difference is that it's basically a hidden tax increase. If you do your own taxes or pay attention to taxes you know there's the 22% bracket, the 24% bracket, 32%, etc. But computing your tax bill is more than adding up all your income, subtracting your deductions, and then applying the right tax brackets to the dollars remaining. Lurking within the tax rules are "phaseouts", countless little provisions it's hard to notice in the 100s of pages of instructions that say, "If you make more than X, go do this worksheet on page 37 of the instructions for form Y to see if your deduction of Z is limited."

This year we got bitten by 3 new phaseouts, one on our federal taxes and two on state. They weren't new-new; they've been there for a few years. This was the first year they applied to us. Yay, we earned more in 2021 than previous years. Boo, taxes getting more complex with hidden increases beyond the brackets.

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I'm working on my taxes this weekend. It's my aim to finish them this weekend. If I don't they'll slip at least two weeks as I'll be out of town on a weekend trip in a week.

I'm using TurboTax again, for the 9th year in a row. I quipped last week that it's an abusive relationship partner. It's time to dust off and update this oldie-but-goodie I originally posted last year:

The MAN don't want to hear it! (Mar 2022)

Like I explained last year I'm kind of stuck in a situation where TurboTax does what it does, which is not quite what I want, and no alternative is better. Use another tax prep tool? They're not as accurate. Hire an accountant? Way more expensive, and less transparent. I manage my own investments and manage sales for relative tax efficiency. Do taxes myself? I'm totally able to, but it'll take a lot more time without the automation done by software. So I stay in this bad relationship.

canyonwalker: Hangin' in a hammock (life's a beach)
We took it easy this weekend. After going out hiking twice each weekend for the past few weeks we rested up this weekend. My back still hurts like a week ago so I figured a brief stand-down would help. And this weekend the last tax form I was waiting on became ready, so I dove in to preparing my tax return. It was a weekend of relaxation and taxation. Oh, and shopping.

Shopping-wise, we hunted around for more of those plates and bowls we've been replacing our old set with. We hit several HomeGoods/Marshalls stores— the only place that carries them, and even then it's very spotty— after lunch on Saturday.

Sunday morning I started on the taxes. I worked until lunch. When I got back, the TurboTax site was apparently down. Well, I wanted to use the hot tub anyway. That seemed like a good time to do it!

Relaxation after taxation in the hot tub (Feb 2022)

The dip in the hot tub was nice. What I really wanted, though, was to finish my dang taxes. 😅

I was able to get back online with TurboTax after dinner. I completed the first pass through my return. Unfortunately TurboTax has something wrong in my taxes— as usual, frankly— and shows me owing nearly $1,700 more than my own estimates indicate. I'll have to dig in to fix that this coming week. Ah, TurboTax, my abusive relationship partner.

canyonwalker: Mr. Moneybags enjoys his wealth (money)
It's official, tax season starts today! Where "official" means the IRS is now accepting tax returns. Yay? 

I don't know anybody who really celebrates tax season. Even the accountants who make most of their annual income during tax season look at it with a degree of dread because it means a few months of working nights and weekends.

Likewise I don't know anybody who actually files taxes this early. Even the majority of the working and middle class who expect a refund— ergo, getting it earlier is better— mostly drag their feet on filing. I'm pretty much the only person I know who ever used to file taxes in late January or early February.

Last year I did my taxes on Valentine's Day and filed the return in early March. It's a bit later than I used to file, say, 20 years ago. The difference is that some of the financial statements I need nowadays take longer to be generated. We've actually got our W2s already, along with some other forms. Our 1099s are currently promised mid-February. Maybe they'll arrive a bit early so I can have another fun Valentine's Day!

canyonwalker: Sullivan, a male golden eagle at UC Davis Raptor Center (Golden Eagle)
I wrote earlier today that I filed my 2020 taxes and am due a refund. How much of a refund? Well, it's a split ticket. For our federal taxes we owe money, a bit less than $1,000. For our state taxes we're due a refund, a bit less than $2,000. Adding the two together, we'll net around $1,000 back.

Great news, right? Well, not really. I'm happy with where I landed with my federal taxes: owing money, but not so much that the government charges us penalties or interest for underpaying. For state taxes, the sizable refund indicates a fail in my planning efforts.

Wait, what? Refunds are bad? Yes, really.

I know that's an unpopular view. Most people I talk to count coup by how big of a refund they get. Like, bigger refund = smarter. The funny thing is it's actually the other way around. Bigger refund = bigger fail.

Why is getting a big refund a fail? Isn't it a win because you're getting more money from the government? No, because it's your money, dumbass.

When you overpay the government through paycheck withholding or quarterly payments throughout the year, you are lending them your money. And when you file your return the next year, they're paying you back— with no interest. You're giving them a zero-interest loan. Where else in life would you invest money with the promise of zero return? 

This is part of why I quip that I start working on my taxes over a year before they're due. I've created a spreadsheet I use to estimate my taxes. All throughout the year I refine my estimates of income, deductions, and taxes withheld. I use those figures to adjust my withholdings. As I noted above, I target owing a bit of money each to fed and state.

Sometimes this planning is hard. I mean, even with my experience that makes the ordinarily hard stuff not so hard, sometimes it's really hard. For example, last year I nailed the target on my federal taxes but slipped on state taxes. That happened because I had a really large charitable deduction (see Giving Like the Big Guys) that I factored in correctly for my federal taxes but biffed the estimate for my state taxes. Like I said, it was a slip. I've got more expertise now, so I won't make that type of slip again. But there are always unknowns that can happen. One of us could lose a job later this year or switch jobs. Either could render my current estimate off kilter. Thus I'll keep checking and revising my estimate every 2-3 months.

canyonwalker: Sullivan, a male golden eagle at UC Davis Raptor Center (Golden Eagle)
Today I filed my taxes, both federal and state. It was... somewhat easy, using TurboTax for the 8th year.

You might recall I wrote about basically completing my taxes three weeks ago. I did. So why wait until now? Well, while I had all the tax forms (1099s, etc.) I needed I was allowing for the possibility that an updated tax form would be sent a few weeks later. Three weeks seemed like enough of a wait. Of course, Murphy's Law says an updated form will arrive in the mail this week. 😜

Why not wait until the proverbial 11th hour before the deadline, on April 15, like much of America seems to do? Well, I'd like to beat the rush. I'm expecting a net refund, and refunds are paid faster when the tax authorities aren't being crushed with filings.

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When I started filling out my income tax forms yesterday (yes, on Valentine's Day), TurboTax welcomed me back. "You've been using TurboTax for 8 years!" the tax prep software told me. Knowing that TurboTax's business model is to convince people they need its service because they can't handle taxes without it, I took the boast of 8 years not as a sign of deep friendship but as them gloating about how they've got me now.

8 Years - You're MY BITCH Now!

Yeah, our relationship has been abusive.

My first date with TT was longer ago than 8 years, actually. I got partway through using it sometime in the late 00s when it choked on a special circumstance related to a Health Savings Account. I dumped it and kept filing taxes by hand.

I returned to TT in 2013 when filing my taxes got substantially more complex. New types of income I earned and changes in the tax code tripled the amount of paperwork required. TT automated the grunt work but wasn't helpful at helping me understand the rules, which is part of what I was looking for.

Over the years since then I've stuck with TT but had to keep a watchful eye on how it handles my finances. For example, in 2015 it almost cost me an extra $1,000 by inexplicably duplicating a stock sale. Pretty much every year since then it's made small mistakes in figuring my taxes— mistakes that would cost me several hundred dollars each year if I weren't checking its math so carefully.

Thankfully I do understand my own taxes. I could file them by hand if I wanted to. TT is such a help at automating the laborious work, though, it's worth sticking around in this broken-trust relationship. And hey, this year TT didn't make a mistake that would cause me to overpay my taxes by $300, $500, or $1,000. That improves its record to 1-8!


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Today is Valentine's Day. Hawk and I both disdain the commercial traditions surrounding the day. We're glad that means neither of us feels pressure to do any of the stuff Corporate America wants us to spend lots of money doing. Instead of writing further about all the dumb things we don't do on Valentine's Day, I'll write about what we did do this Valentine's Day. For me, at least, that's taxes. As in, I got most of my tax filings done today.

Do Your Taxes on Valentine's Day!"But don't you just hate taxes?" a lot of people whine.

No, I don't. And I'll tell you why. 1) Paying taxes is our responsibility as citizens. Sure, I'd love to skip paying taxes and get everything for free, but that's just not adult. 2) Even though the process is way more complex in the US than in many other Western countries I don't find it that appalling.

Part of the common loathing of taxes is the trope of putting them off until the 11th hour and then panicking. Tax Day in the US is Thursday, April 15. The trope of people rushing to the post office late night on the 14th abounds. (Sophisticated procrastinators routinely file 6 month extensions... which only delays their panic to mid-October.) But why wait?

I worked on my tax filing done today because almost all the documents I need for it are ready already. W-2s were available weeks ago, as were the simplest 1099s. More of our 1099s came out two weeks ago, and the last I needed was released yesterday. Again: why wait?

It helps also that I've given myself even more of a head start than beginning 2 months before Tax Day. I actually started fourteen months ago. Every year I keep careful records starting on Jan 1. Another common trope about why taxes suck is sorting through a shoebox full of crumpled receipts. None of that here! My crumpled receipts are already presorted into folders by topic. 😏

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